High School Hip Hop and Politics
Posted May 13 2008
Well, first of all I would like to thank the panelists that came because they could have chosen any other school and they chose
Unity. I think that the panel was a really great experience for all of us because we have had something similar when we had the (juvenile justice) debate. I think that all of them made really good points in their speeches. Like for example, that it all starts with youth and also to think about what you are going to do because it may affect your future. I really agree that we, the young people, have the future in our hands because we can do so many things to change what we don’t like because someone else is not going to do it for you. Even though they did make good points I also think that others didn’t really make sense, well at least to me. Like for example, I don’t really see how hip hop influences people to vote if not everyone listens to it. I think that it would have been better if they had said that music in general is very influential. I really agreed when they said, “If you don’t set your future then someone will for you.” Another interesting thing was the networking part. I really think that if you spread you network you can do all kinds of things that you never thought you could do. Some feedback that I would give is that they should answer the questions that are asked. What they talked about is actually really interesting but I think that when they are done talking they should come back to the question that they were asked and answer it if they can. Other than that I think that everything was great! Once again Thank you very much for choosing Unity and I hope that this could happen again because I really think that you guys could really inspire the juniors next year like you have inspired many of us.-Daniel B.
I believe that the Rap Session Town Hall meeting yesterday was about how women and others are affected both in a good and bad way in today’s Hip-Hop genre. Another thing that the panel talked about was about how Barack Obama wrote a letter to Puerto Ricans urging them to vote because they are by default American citizens. So they should vote because they don't have to worry about being deported or treated badly. And one other thing that they talked about was how when they were younger they would be self proclaimed "revolutionaries" but they would still listen to degrading music.-Greg B.
In this meeting I learned a lot from all of our guest speakers. I am
really happy that our students were capable of having a major conversation. It was really impressive to me, seeing how they were taking about politics and constantly saying the name of Barack Obama. I like how the majority of the people strongly believe in Obama, which is why during the meeting I decided to ask the question that I asked, which was: Do you believe that Obama is going to be different than our other presidents or do you believe that just like in the book Animal Farm he will change and turn into one of them? Does he only care about himself?They did stutter a little when they heard my question, and it was a good response that I got from one of our guest speakers.
I really like the why Ms. Ramos’ husband was talking about drugs and all of the problems with our Black and Latino communities. It was interesting also hearing about how Puerto Ricans are born with our citizenship but they do not have the right to vote in the U.S.A.-Emmanuel G.
The people on the panel talked about some very interesting issues and told some inspiring stories. However, they did digress from the point a lot. Some parts of the discussion sounded more like a highlight of current day problems instead of how we can solve them.
Angela Woodson was inspiring because she registered over 100 thousand people to vote when she was only 18 years old. The panel members agreed that it was our generation that would have to make the changes for the future.
I think that our generation will determine the future but I think there should also be a big focus for people our age to help pass on these ideas to younger students because it is more difficult to take out the time to teach younger people if one is busy with college and once one is an adult there is usually a gap of communication and only a few children really get the message.
Rosa Alicia Clemente pointed out what I think is a key point in the oppression of Black and Latino people today. She said that it is less common to see white people discriminating amongst themselves based on color. She said that as a African/Puerto Rican American, she did not understand why there was so much violence between Latino and Black people. That Latinos and Blacks usually have a massive tension between them while many white people ask why they are fighting in the first place.
I liked the things Rico Pabón was saying because I could relate a bit to suffering due to the habit of a parent. Though the degree of suffering and the strength of the drug may differ, children usually suffer from the vices of their parents almost as much as the parents’ bodies do. While living in the Salvation Army shelter I have seen parents take welfare money intended for their children and spend it on drugs and receive subsidized housing only to use the leftover money on their vices. I could also relate to relate to when he said that he decided to break the cycle by not falling into any drug habits himself. The drug and alcohol abuse in my family has shaped my refusal to drink any alcohol.
I really enjoyed the panel but I think it can be improved by talking about more specific subjects because I felt the discussion was too general.-Martin R.
First of all, I would like to thank them for coming here to our school. I appreciate the fact that they dedicated their time to us by coming to our school, even though they could have chosen another school. I know that it was their first time coming to a high school and I would like to give them props for being able to be in front of a teenager audience. Moreover, I want to start off by saying that I value and appreciate the work that they are doing to diminish the way that hip-hop is portraying women these days and to educate youth about hip-hop. Furthermore, while I heard the word revolutionary, I got really inspired, not only to become one, but to make a change in my community as well. But coming from a low income community, going through hardships while attending high school, walking through dangerous neighborhoods everyday, crushes my inspiration to become one, because all of this drives my attention to another way. In addition, I felt that they were promoting Barack Obama (Which I don't feel that its something bad) a lot. They touched the points that Brown and Blacks should unite as one, but they didn't really made key points on how to do this. Over all, they did a great job in coming to our community and having this panel here in our school. I feel very appreciative that I go to this school because it has a lot that other schools don't have. Thank you.-Anonymous
I thought that the guest speakers were more talkative amongst themselves most of the time. When some of the students went up to speak on the microphone to ask questions, the panel didn’t actually seem to really answer their questions. It’s kind of as if they were answering it in an indirect way for some reason, or perhaps it’s possible that they didn’t understand what the students wanted to know. It was pretty obvious with how the guest speakers would go off topic and talk about something related to a question, but never actually give a real answer. All of the panel were basically saying the same ideas over and over again. The topics were based around Hip-Hop, but not a lot of political things that I’ve noticed. The only two presidential candidates ever mentioned in the entire conversation was just Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. But, it appeared as though most of the guest speakers prefer Barack over Hillary judging by how much they actually mentioned him and didn’t say a lot on anyone else. And, one of the ladies that said she was going to turn forty was putting some of her personal business out there in the open. I don’t think it was necessary for everyone to know that she had sex at the age of thirteen. Also, the fact that she kept bringing up how she’s Puerto Rican and other issues relating around that several times was very annoying, in my opinion. One thing I found pretty odd was how the men in the panel were so talkative during the introduction and the ladies didn’t really get a big saying during the time. But, the women were the most talkative bunch once the students had begun to interact with them. I thought that the guest speakers coming to our school didn’t really inspire me to do anything or provided me with information I didn’t already know so it did kind of felt like a waste of time.-Lucia S.
The panel was very interesting in many ways. Each of the panelists had different ideas and views. When I got there I thought they where going to talk about politics and the 2008 presidency, which they did, but got they off topic from time to time. Some of the interested talks were about how we are the future and how we should not screw up in life. I saw a lot of their talks as opinions. In some cases I would agree or disagree on what they said because a lot of the conversations are too complex to explain the reason why. There are many factors and it is a broader view explaining the answer why.
Rosa Alicia Clemente always seems strong on what she says. It is true how in different sides of the country sees a person’s ethnic orientation different. For example, brown is brown on the West Coast but brown in the East Coast is black. I like how she is pro-feminine and basically doesn’t let people stomp on her face. I appreciate that she gave two DVD’s to the school. I am looking forward to see the Jena-Six video. I believe that the video is more liberal than in the middle between left and right. I basically just want to hear their opinion and theories and if they can back it up. I think she was the one talking about white supremacy, which sounds true, but in a way it sounded like she was jumping into conclusions. Yeah, it’s true that the majority of white people are in power but it made me think how other people could be in that place. I mean, looking at reality, the majority of different ethnic groups don’t go to college because of financial problems, cultural traditions, or other factors, I’m not blaming them for not going to college. When she was talking, I was thinking of people that I know, people that had the opportunity to head to college, but didn’t go. They could have made a change becoming something important in life, probably an icon , or be in power as government. They could have been into politics and changed the nation. It was interested that she believes that there are half-whites and full whites. It was funny. In my head I was thinking that full-white are most likely Republicans and Christians and are very traditional. Half whites bend the rules a bit. It was kind of confusing. Also she was right that it’s good to know different culture to interact with others.
Dawn-Elissa Fischer, sorry, I mean DR. Dawn-Elissa Fischer, seem excited to be doing a panel in a high school, especially at a high school like Unity High. She had high energy and always had something to say. It look like she loves hanging out with youth. It would have been great if she explained the hip-hop exhibition where it holds iconic items of hip-hop. When I visited Stanford I
only saw a Hyphy Juice bottle but it would be great if the exhibition was still there. It’s interesting how she has work with a lot of groups and organization that deals with hip-hop and basically teaching hip-hop in colleges such as Stanford and Harvard. I was surprised that she is from the Bay Area and has a PhD in anthropology. I agree with her idea that we are the future and we should make our future as a fact and not as a statistic. Also, that networking is very important. Her example of using Verizon networking or my Favs from T-Mobile was really good. I learned to have very good networking.I noticed that M1 didn’t do a lot of taking but it was very interesting to hear his past life. It’s a surprise how he wanted to be different and how college changed is life. It was basically a renaissance in his life. It’s good that he found his own meaning of life. It looked like he opened his eyes to see how the world is and how it’s working not scientifically but also politically. Now I know why he spreads his message through music, especially hip-hop. His talk about his college life change made me think how other people will change when they head to college, including me. I think that he was sending a clear message to the students that we should all go to college because it one of the most important turning point in life which will drive you in to a path of passion and change of the mind.
Angela Woodson had very good points and I’m glad that there was a person whose profession is in politics. I was surprised that most states from the east coast see the west coast as a testing place; to see if rules and laws are working or not them apply them to the state. One thing that I like about her was that she said to the student to listen to old school hip-hop like Queen Latifah so they can see what is real hip-hop.
Rico Pabón did not also talk a lot but I agree on what he said. We are the future and don’t do anything bad in life. His life story was sad, that his parents did drugs, but I noticed that he is basically saying that people should break the habit of following their parents’ mistakes because if they follow it, the problem continues. Problems like addiction.
One of the things that got me the most was they are all basically a free person and what they do is their passion. I notice that they do what they do and believe what they believe, which in my opinion is cool. Almost all the time when I was at the panel I was thinking and I think it made other people think too. I appreciated that they come and I hope they do these kinds of panel happens in other high schools so they can also think and make our generation a good one.-Ernesto U.
A few friends and I reviewed some of the reflections here yesterday and we came to some of the same conclusions that some of us wrote in the reflections. We are grateful that the panel came to Unity first. However there were several things that could have improved the discussion. First off, I’d like to make it clear that I do not mean to insult anyone, merely to state what I did not state in my reflection and what I got from a very interesting conversation with my friends, whose names I won’t mention for their privacy, yesterday after reviewing some of the reflections on the infamous “Rap Sessions” panel. Another thing that led me to write this was that several people in the panel said that students in the colleges they had gone to did not talk and simply stared at them. Since I don’t feel I’ve anything to lose by being honest, won’t bite my tongue about some of the flaws my friends and I noticed. Some parts of the panel seemed more like a rally than a panel, such as the constant glorification of Barack Obama. Despite my personal biases, no one on the panel gave some solid examples as to why he’d truly make a better president than another candidate, but several of them simply threw his name out there. This made me feel no more informed than when I’ve seen the perpetual shouts of “CHANGE!” on television. Since the panel was supposed to be focused on the integration of hip-hop and politics, then it might be better to actually talk a bit more about relative politics, such as the constant cuts to education and immigration policies for the countless people with parents in this country illegally. It would also be good to actually talk about the connection between hip-hop and politics since it was never addressed in the discussion. The constant mention of the United States being a country of white supremacy was, of course, not unfounded. However I and my friends talked about this and we are past the simple demonization of white people since we’ve seen that not all white people are rich and racist. On a personal note, I was a bit frustrated that a few people in the panel took a Malcolm X “white devil” outlook during the discussion. My friends and I talked it over and came to the conclusion that the simple demonization of an entire group should be more commonly seen in those that have just began learning of their oppression and want to “find the enemy” even though it is almost never that simple. Perhaps one of the more pestering things in the discussion was that a lot of the questions went unanswered. While tangential answers can also lead to very interesting facts, certain questions seemed to be completely blown off because there were no simple answers, such as when someone asked what we can do to change the way things are in the U.S. I recognize there was on simple answer, but some ideas or a straight “I don’t know” would have been better than wandering from the subject and not making any connection to the actual question afterwards. A lot of us were looking for some guidance in the panel but, from what I’ve seen in the reviews, many found instead that it is not that easy to come up with solutions. The panel should address the question first then go into any relating story or go talk about something but connect it with the question afterwards because if someone does not see the connection, the question might as well have never been asked. To end on a positive note, the thing I most enjoyed and respected was the complete honesty of all those in the panel since I heard some very personal stories there that helped me connect with them instead of having feeling like I’d just been lectured by a monotone speaking professor like I do at some other events.
Martin, I don't really have anything to add other than you raised some good points. I think the point of panels like these are to get us to think, yet they're not above being questioned. After all, who are these panels intended to benefit? Glad you're taking advantage of the panel to reflect and not demonize nor romanticize it!
I am glad that the panel came to Unity, even thoguh we are such a small school it is cool how have gotten to take part in such a big thing. One person on the panel I was really drawn to was Rosa Celemente. She seems to be very passionate about what she is doing, and that lets you know she cares about her work. I agreed with some of things she says like how on the west coast your brown, but on the east coast you black. That has been my experience on the east coast. Alot of my cousins and friends that would be considered "brown" in California are considered black on the east coast by alot people. After she said this I wondered if this was the reason why she refered to herself as a Black Puerto Rican. Part of me thinks that it is really ignorant to refer to yourself this way, but i guess that it was the she was raised. Rico Pabón did not talk much but I was most impressed by what he said when he did speak. Is life story is sad but inspiring because he did grow up to follow in the habits of parents or let that situation stop him from doing good in his life. Overall the panel was good and I hope that in the future more high school students and people my age get to be apart of it because it really gets you thinking.
Its great how we are such a smalls school and there are famous programs and people cooming to Unity High School. When the session was done music really changed my mind in a lot of different view points. What changed for me is the type of music I use to hear. I never really realize that all I was hearing was the B word and money and sleeping with this and having all this jewelry. Its true for what females say that they get hurt when they hear does things in the radio station or people just singing the lyrics. When a few of my female classmates went up to ask a question one of them said, What can we do to stop this violance on music? I was really shock and it was a very powerfull question. My answer to that would be just stop listening to it get your mind out that music and teach people not to listen that music.
What i thought about the hip-hop panel was that they were very orriented to us about networking because its good for us to start meeting people because when we off to college its really going to help us out. Also they talk about poetry on how it influenced Rico Pabon in his music. They said that we have been growing up in a though neighboorhood or community and that we need to take all that in mind. For example having connections is helpful because when you have some kind of project you can look at your networking list for help on the project or for a job. Growing up in a tough neighboorhood can influence you to make a change in your community. For example it might motivate you to go to college and become and come back to make a difference.
Hey Mr.z I really like the way that my speech is presented in this website. I found it really cool that you put my photo here. I am extremely excited to see what comments the guest speakers from this day had to say about my essay.
I like all of the things that the panelists had to say about the problems all around the world and I also like the way they were so impressed with our students from Unity High.
When i heard about the hip-hop panel I was like its going to be boring because we have heard it about it so many times. That they say the same thing over and over. But when we were there I realized that no it was something really different about it. It was true what they say that we need to have talkative with people that you don't know. But that will really help you in life. Because once you are getting older you are going to deal with things like this. Is helpful to get used to it. The more connections you have with different people of different places or culture the more opportunities you have in life to find a job or learn new different things.People might thing that hip-hop doesn't have anything with you in life but yo don't realize it does. It does because many young kids do listen to that kind of music and they start at a young age saying that they want to do this and that. Some kids that have brothers or family that are in gangs and see that they hear that type of music makes them follow the same steps. Unlike that there are some songs that talk about being someone in life and not to keep the same steps as people that are going th wrong way. After this one hour talk about hip-hop change my thoughts about hip-hop and makes e realize different things about life.
after reading this summary, i think that Unity is a school that is heard of all around. i think overall the panel went really well. they had some good points and the students interacted with the people from the panel. the students also gave out some good points, they suprised the panel becasue of what some students said. they really interacte with one another. The conversation that was exciting, it wasn't boring. I though it would be but what they talked about made it more interesting.
After reading this article about the Hip Hop and Politics panel that we were lucky enough to have at school I thought that it was a real interesting article. I thought that it was real interesting to read that even though all of our panelists had only been at universities they decided to come to our high school which was the first high school that they have visited. I also would have to agree with you on he part about Rosa Clemente being one of the most interesting panelists because like you say she was one of the few of them that seemed to really relate to what it is that is going on right now with politics and Hip Hop. I also agree with you because Rosa was the one who talked about a topic that concerns all of us who are trying to get our education dealing with the fund cuts on programs such as Sex Ed and many more also Rosa also related all of that is happening right now and expressed her own feelings with a question that made most of us from the audience think and see how the society that we live in is not fair. For me it was also an interesting article because we got to see that most of the panelist were women that really understood what we as young women living in his society have to go through. This was also an interesting article because you specifically wrote how Rico Pavon explained that he was the one who had decided that he was going to change the route that his past three generations had created which dealt with their addiction either towards drugs and or alcohol or anything else. One last thing that I would have to say about this is hat like many of my classmates said we feel great full that we were the first high school that our panelist had ever gone to because this showed us that they actually thought that we could be a good audience in which they could spread all of their knowledge and one in which they felt that they were going to leave something behind so we all can come together and be part of a change like they are, so that we as youth can show the rest of the people surrounding us that all it takes to make a change is to have will and to know that what happens around us is something that affects us the most because we are the ones who are going to be living in this world and the ones who are having to deal with all of the injustices that surround us.
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