High School Hip Hop and Politics
Posted May 13 2008
I thought that the panel was good; I liked how they represented themselves. I liked what they talked about and they were really open in their comments. All of the representatives were talking about common things that are happening in our society today; how we are the future, and how men need to respect woman. I think all the students enjoyed the talk. Many students participated in the conversations and spoke out on what they really felt. The people from the panel were really interested in Korey because he gave out good points. I liked how Rosa Clemente talked; she gave out a good speech. What she talked about was really interesting. She talked about how women shouldn’t be called the b word and that man should stand up for them too.I also liked how Mrs. Ramos’ husband talked. He gave a speech about how he lived around drugs’ how drugs made him stronger, through looking at how the people he loved were on drugs, he realized that wasn’t for him. He doesn’t want his children living around drugs. He doesn’t want his kids to be around drugs. He wants a better life for his kid. I really liked this session and it was a great opportunity. o really enjoyed hearing what they had to say.-Patty B.
Rap Sessions could be counted as one of the most non Hip Hop orientated Hip Hop oriented discussions. I felt only a slight effort to make Hip Hop a channel through the discussion except through of
course the misogyny factor and the generic “Hip Hop Saved My Life, ” which by all means is true. But I felt the panelists were more focused on their jobs than the questions in the discussion. Like for example, Angela Woodson who went on and on about how California is the center for change for all states, which I grasped, but failed to connect it to Hip Hop. M-1 who went on about revolution and how he wants to be a revolutionary is a hip hop Artist but didn’t give me any solid info to save for a future Hip Hop discussion. Dawn Fischer, who reminded me of my network, and made a common discussion. She talks just like my Economics teacher Daniel Zarazua, “connections, connections.” She has a great attitude and was really excited but at some points I felt like a Kindergartener when she spoke to me; like I might have been a less intelligent being or something of the sort. Rosa Clemente was my favorite speaker. She talked about the usual misogyny but with so much charisma. I now know 1/4 of the women in the U.S. have a sexually transmitted disease excluding AIDS. But she kept on coming to this point of white supremacy at a certain point in conversations or responses. Like damn, OK, we get you Queen Afrika Bambaataa Newton. Rico Pabon told us about his struggles and how Hip Hop was a key factor in helping him, and he went on tangents but answered most of the questions in the end of his anecdotes. In the end though I felt happy that they took the time to come and visit Unity High as the first high school for Rap Sessions.-Roman B.I thought that the panel was good and bad in some ways. I thought that they said some interesting stuff like about how they are revolutionary and how they use hip hop not only to rap but to express themselves too. I thought that the woman Rosa was just trying to say good things about Obama because she was talking about why Latinos don’t vote for him and why we should vote for him. She was trying to say that we are the same and that basically we should vote for him. I think that they went off topic when we were asking questions. I think that many people including me were bored because they started just talking and talking.
I think that an improvement that they could make is to make the panel more funner but as effective because that would make teens pay more attention but at the same time learn something. I think that there should be more time because there was not enough time and people were getting desperate to leave.-Alejandro G.
Through my observations of the panel yesterday it was rather interesting. I agreed with much of the points the individuals made but some questions were not answered clearly enough. What actually caught my attention was how they kept saying that the youth, we were the ones that were going to make the change in our society. Realistically, people in Oakland and even worst youth in east Oakland, already have enough issues on their plate to be going out there to revolt. I mean really, who is actually going to risk losing their job just to go revolt? People here are trying to survive, not to get caught up with the police.
The people who can help us become a movement are them; the panelists. They got the power, the international knowledge, and the money too. What they need to do is to go and do this in other high schools, especially the ones in the ghetto because they are the most affected by the concepts of Hip-Hop. I understand they do panels in San Francisco but they charge from 10 to 15 dollars. Nobody from the ghetto is going to pay that money just to go see some people that they don’t even know. I mean not every school has teachers like Mr. Zarazua who got networks in every city, so they need to start networking more with high school kids and reach them not reach out to them but actually reach them and facilitate some recourse. With this I’m sure there will be change because as they say the youth control more than they think. The panel really put me to think and I’m sure it will do the same to every youth they actually reach.-Mabel O.
The fact that this was the first time I had ever heard of most of these five panelists, I had no idea what to expect. The only person I was a bit familiar with was M1 from dead prez. I was hoping he would perform one of his songs from the “Lets Get Free” album, but he didn’t. The over all discussion was great. The panelist really seemed that they were dedicated to reaching teens through Hip-Hop. After telling us that they’ve been doing this for years and Unity was the first high school, that actually showed they were interested in us. They would have to be dedicated to not have quit by now. The person I thought was a great speaker was M1, not
because he’s from dead prez but because he has over 20 years experience and he knows the truth about Hip-Hop that most people don’t know. He can sit there and say that some of dead prez’s music was an influence on the revolution. But the person that I felt the most was Korey. The Korey that I knew back in the 10th grade isn’t the same Korey that was in that auditorium. The things he said when he was giving his speech, I could tell that he wasn’t just up there to blow smoke. He wasn’t only able to give a good speech and example of how his life has changed but he was also able recite parts of the book he was reading and even bust a rhyme for us. He was actually the reason that everyone else got so must into it. Even though I never got up and spoke, I feel that I can fairly rate this event as 9 out of 10. I hope they come back next year so that the sophomores can get something out of it.-Jestin R.I thought that the panel was interesting. There where things I didn’t understand and other things I did. I mostly agreed on everything, but there were a lot of things they could of done better. I thought the panel was interesting because everyone talked loud and confidently about what they had to say. I liked how Rosa talked about her life. For example, when she said she didn’t know anything about sex until she was 17 (I think) and that teenagers should be educated about things like that when they are young not, when they are already doing it. I agree, because it is harder to make them stop or change once someone is having sex, doing drugs, or gang banging. I also liked when like the quote Dawn-Elissa Fischer said; “do your agenda before someone does it for you”. Something like that.The reason I liked it so much was probably because I don’t like anyone to tell me what to do.
The reason I thought it was a bit confusing was because I don’t really listen to hip-hop; so when M1 talked about his music life I didn’t understand much of what he was saying. It was also confusing when Bakari Kitwana would ask a question to the panelists and they would respond with a different answer that had almost nothing to do with what they were asked. The thing was that I wasn’t sure about what the panel was most focused on. Also, It seemed that most of the people on the panel were pro- Obama. It was as if they were trying t convince us that Obama was the candidate to vote for, but didn’t give well enough reasons to. Overall, having a panel at Unity High was a good experience. It motivated many students from Unity High, including myself, to be a leader and not just talk about issues, but also do something about it.-Lucero V.
On yesterday’s session I was really surprised about how much they said and that made me change my mind. I also realize that it is true on how they say that always in hip hop music all they talk about its hoe’s and b*tches and what they wear and all their money. But people don’t realize that hip hop is all about the truth and when hip hop was first created people were talking on their streets and on their problems and on how can people change it. People now just mixed up the whole reputation and they just go off the topic. For example, Lil’ Wayne made a song that talks about lollipops and a rapper. People don’t want to hear that. They want to hear smart words. An example of that would be Common. He is always talking about his people and on how can people change and he gives the spirit to the people who listen to his raps. I also did not realize that people who listen to those dirty raps, they have a problem on what they say and they also want to change something. One of those topics is that how can the females stop people thinking that the females are some b*tches and they are only good to mess around with (sex). It was a great session and I would pay these people to come to my family and give them a speech.-Juan Cer.
Today’s panel of Hip Hop activists was very interesting. They didn’t bore me with the usual “Hip Hop is bad” thing. I learned some more from them and from my classmates as well. I also learned about what each activist does and learned about their views and opinions. What I also liked about the panel was that we got to ask questions and tell them what they should do to make things better and get a quicker change. Lots of times when people have meetings, its just the speaker who is talking and there’s no time for questions and concerns. Overall, I liked the way things went and I am looking forward into having another one.-Tayler D.
The Hip Hop session was something very new to me. I never used to see drugs as the way they all talked about it. They talked about drugs from a whole different side of the story. Every question that was asked they answered. I was amazed. I really learned a lot and how women need to stick together and support one another. The same thing with us men. We need to stop that Brown on Black
crime and become one, just like Korey said, and unite. That’s the only way we are going to destroy all this racism and discrimination. Everything they said was very interesting but what stood out to me more was when Kory Gibson was talking. I mean I never met someone that would talk so mature and smart and very political that’s my age. He really surprised me and I think he will be somebody important in the future. He actually encouraged me more because he is my age and someone that talks like a real positive person that’s a teenage is really hard to find. I’m not saying that the people that came were not encouraging, I’m just saying they are old and already struggled and me and Korey, we struggling at the same time. I also really enjoyed his rap. It was really amazing and I think he should continue what he is doing. Now, from all the guest speakers, to me Rosa Alicia Clemente was the one that caught my attention on the issues she was talking about. For example, about Puerto Rico and Barak Obama. She spoke very clearly and well. Every point she raised she explained with strong details. Also Ms. Ramos’ husband was me second favorite. I liked his speech and comments he talked a lot about his childhood. It must have been really hard for him growing up with lots of drugs around him. It was all a new experience for me and hopefully we see more of it.-Luis H.I felt the Hip-Hop panel was very interesting because when they were actually speaking they were speaking to us as a generation. They didn’t speak like we were some little kids that don’t know anything. The panelists felt that they need to express on how they feel on the hip-hop generation today and how it’s very different from when they were growing up as teens and also talked about the political point of views that’s going on today. I personally liked the way Rosa answered all the questions with one response. She gave all the details we need to hear. Im not saying that all the other panelist didn’t do well. I’m just saying that she covered most of the stuff that some of them couldn’t get to. Also, by hearing what Dawn –Elissa Fischer said “set an agenda” kind of inspired me to think about my life and what direction I need to turn to.-Mori F.
Rosa Alicia Clemente really inspired me. She said that we are the future and we could unite this state and be model to the rest of the county. Dawn made me realize that in this school we have a lot of resources and networking and we could make a lot of changes. Rico Pabon said that the issues that he saw and lived in are the same one that we are living in and we could change them. One thing that I also liked was that they said that they wanted to hear our opinions, not just by asking question but by teaching them something.
I really enjoy being there. All the people on the panel looked very friendly and they inspired me. They told them I could make a change. They believe in us and I know that we will not let them down. I will work with my network and I will make it. By this I mean that I would go to college and I will help my community. Dawn make me realize that we could all together make a change.
Something that I didn’t like was that they told us that we could change things but they didn’t tell us how or what were the issues were. Another thing is that some panelist didn’t even answer the questions that they were asked. Another thing is that they talked about how Obama would be a good president but they didn’t say why. I expected more because one of the panelists works for him. She only said that if the president would not have the support of the congress the president could not make a change.-Sara M.
It was interesting having Hip-Hop Politics at our school. The subjects were great. For example, bringing the message that women should care for themselves and not degrade themselves and men shouldn’t do it either. A man should be respectful, or take care of women. Rosa’s speech was really powerful, telling her personal stories about her time in college which led her to change and becoming an activist was motivating. But the chat left me with the thought that if your not listening to Hip-Hop because I am Brown or Black is like saying I’m part of the white supremacy. The message just doesn’t come from the form of Hip-hop. I have a big understanding the whole talk wasn’t about Hip-Hop but that message stayed with me, because M1 said that rock is a genre at reaches white kids and Hip-Hop reaches more of the minorities. Other than that negative issue, listening to the panelists go into politics and writing about how they feel is spreading the message that something is wrong and our government needs help. Dawn made a good point about networking, to take advantage of accumulating contacts and saving them. One day those contacts will come in handy in creating a change. She really made me realize that our school does have a lot of connections and if we know how to use them they will come in handy. The Hip-Hop Politics had enjoyable knowledge I think every student got something out of it. If they didn’t, well, I know I did.-Yareli O.
A few friends and I reviewed some of the reflections here yesterday and we came to some of the same conclusions that some of us wrote in the reflections. We are grateful that the panel came to Unity first. However there were several things that could have improved the discussion. First off, I’d like to make it clear that I do not mean to insult anyone, merely to state what I did not state in my reflection and what I got from a very interesting conversation with my friends, whose names I won’t mention for their privacy, yesterday after reviewing some of the reflections on the infamous “Rap Sessions” panel. Another thing that led me to write this was that several people in the panel said that students in the colleges they had gone to did not talk and simply stared at them. Since I don’t feel I’ve anything to lose by being honest, won’t bite my tongue about some of the flaws my friends and I noticed. Some parts of the panel seemed more like a rally than a panel, such as the constant glorification of Barack Obama. Despite my personal biases, no one on the panel gave some solid examples as to why he’d truly make a better president than another candidate, but several of them simply threw his name out there. This made me feel no more informed than when I’ve seen the perpetual shouts of “CHANGE!” on television. Since the panel was supposed to be focused on the integration of hip-hop and politics, then it might be better to actually talk a bit more about relative politics, such as the constant cuts to education and immigration policies for the countless people with parents in this country illegally. It would also be good to actually talk about the connection between hip-hop and politics since it was never addressed in the discussion. The constant mention of the United States being a country of white supremacy was, of course, not unfounded. However I and my friends talked about this and we are past the simple demonization of white people since we’ve seen that not all white people are rich and racist. On a personal note, I was a bit frustrated that a few people in the panel took a Malcolm X “white devil” outlook during the discussion. My friends and I talked it over and came to the conclusion that the simple demonization of an entire group should be more commonly seen in those that have just began learning of their oppression and want to “find the enemy” even though it is almost never that simple. Perhaps one of the more pestering things in the discussion was that a lot of the questions went unanswered. While tangential answers can also lead to very interesting facts, certain questions seemed to be completely blown off because there were no simple answers, such as when someone asked what we can do to change the way things are in the U.S. I recognize there was on simple answer, but some ideas or a straight “I don’t know” would have been better than wandering from the subject and not making any connection to the actual question afterwards. A lot of us were looking for some guidance in the panel but, from what I’ve seen in the reviews, many found instead that it is not that easy to come up with solutions. The panel should address the question first then go into any relating story or go talk about something but connect it with the question afterwards because if someone does not see the connection, the question might as well have never been asked. To end on a positive note, the thing I most enjoyed and respected was the complete honesty of all those in the panel since I heard some very personal stories there that helped me connect with them instead of having feeling like I’d just been lectured by a monotone speaking professor like I do at some other events.
Martin, I don't really have anything to add other than you raised some good points. I think the point of panels like these are to get us to think, yet they're not above being questioned. After all, who are these panels intended to benefit? Glad you're taking advantage of the panel to reflect and not demonize nor romanticize it!
I am glad that the panel came to Unity, even thoguh we are such a small school it is cool how have gotten to take part in such a big thing. One person on the panel I was really drawn to was Rosa Celemente. She seems to be very passionate about what she is doing, and that lets you know she cares about her work. I agreed with some of things she says like how on the west coast your brown, but on the east coast you black. That has been my experience on the east coast. Alot of my cousins and friends that would be considered "brown" in California are considered black on the east coast by alot people. After she said this I wondered if this was the reason why she refered to herself as a Black Puerto Rican. Part of me thinks that it is really ignorant to refer to yourself this way, but i guess that it was the she was raised. Rico Pabón did not talk much but I was most impressed by what he said when he did speak. Is life story is sad but inspiring because he did grow up to follow in the habits of parents or let that situation stop him from doing good in his life. Overall the panel was good and I hope that in the future more high school students and people my age get to be apart of it because it really gets you thinking.
Its great how we are such a smalls school and there are famous programs and people cooming to Unity High School. When the session was done music really changed my mind in a lot of different view points. What changed for me is the type of music I use to hear. I never really realize that all I was hearing was the B word and money and sleeping with this and having all this jewelry. Its true for what females say that they get hurt when they hear does things in the radio station or people just singing the lyrics. When a few of my female classmates went up to ask a question one of them said, What can we do to stop this violance on music? I was really shock and it was a very powerfull question. My answer to that would be just stop listening to it get your mind out that music and teach people not to listen that music.
What i thought about the hip-hop panel was that they were very orriented to us about networking because its good for us to start meeting people because when we off to college its really going to help us out. Also they talk about poetry on how it influenced Rico Pabon in his music. They said that we have been growing up in a though neighboorhood or community and that we need to take all that in mind. For example having connections is helpful because when you have some kind of project you can look at your networking list for help on the project or for a job. Growing up in a tough neighboorhood can influence you to make a change in your community. For example it might motivate you to go to college and become and come back to make a difference.
Hey Mr.z I really like the way that my speech is presented in this website. I found it really cool that you put my photo here. I am extremely excited to see what comments the guest speakers from this day had to say about my essay.
I like all of the things that the panelists had to say about the problems all around the world and I also like the way they were so impressed with our students from Unity High.
When i heard about the hip-hop panel I was like its going to be boring because we have heard it about it so many times. That they say the same thing over and over. But when we were there I realized that no it was something really different about it. It was true what they say that we need to have talkative with people that you don't know. But that will really help you in life. Because once you are getting older you are going to deal with things like this. Is helpful to get used to it. The more connections you have with different people of different places or culture the more opportunities you have in life to find a job or learn new different things.People might thing that hip-hop doesn't have anything with you in life but yo don't realize it does. It does because many young kids do listen to that kind of music and they start at a young age saying that they want to do this and that. Some kids that have brothers or family that are in gangs and see that they hear that type of music makes them follow the same steps. Unlike that there are some songs that talk about being someone in life and not to keep the same steps as people that are going th wrong way. After this one hour talk about hip-hop change my thoughts about hip-hop and makes e realize different things about life.
after reading this summary, i think that Unity is a school that is heard of all around. i think overall the panel went really well. they had some good points and the students interacted with the people from the panel. the students also gave out some good points, they suprised the panel becasue of what some students said. they really interacte with one another. The conversation that was exciting, it wasn't boring. I though it would be but what they talked about made it more interesting.
After reading this article about the Hip Hop and Politics panel that we were lucky enough to have at school I thought that it was a real interesting article. I thought that it was real interesting to read that even though all of our panelists had only been at universities they decided to come to our high school which was the first high school that they have visited. I also would have to agree with you on he part about Rosa Clemente being one of the most interesting panelists because like you say she was one of the few of them that seemed to really relate to what it is that is going on right now with politics and Hip Hop. I also agree with you because Rosa was the one who talked about a topic that concerns all of us who are trying to get our education dealing with the fund cuts on programs such as Sex Ed and many more also Rosa also related all of that is happening right now and expressed her own feelings with a question that made most of us from the audience think and see how the society that we live in is not fair. For me it was also an interesting article because we got to see that most of the panelist were women that really understood what we as young women living in his society have to go through. This was also an interesting article because you specifically wrote how Rico Pavon explained that he was the one who had decided that he was going to change the route that his past three generations had created which dealt with their addiction either towards drugs and or alcohol or anything else. One last thing that I would have to say about this is hat like many of my classmates said we feel great full that we were the first high school that our panelist had ever gone to because this showed us that they actually thought that we could be a good audience in which they could spread all of their knowledge and one in which they felt that they were going to leave something behind so we all can come together and be part of a change like they are, so that we as youth can show the rest of the people surrounding us that all it takes to make a change is to have will and to know that what happens around us is something that affects us the most because we are the ones who are going to be living in this world and the ones who are having to deal with all of the injustices that surround us.
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