High School Hip Hop and Politics
Posted May 13 2008
The panel was interesting because they addressed issues that young people from Oakland can relate to. It was also interesting to hear the discussion because you learn new things from other
people's perspective and view. They talked about how hip hop is used to influence young people today, and how hip hop plays a role in politics. Also, why it would be important for young people to vote and what to vote for. They also described hip hop organizations in which they participate and are involved in. It was interesting when they discussed how women are seen in the hip-hop community and how women are portrayed. They said that there was more to just what people see, there are leaders who are anti-sexist when other people see women being degraded. They also gave out information that seemed useful and appealing to young people. For example, motivations and goals. I think that they had several encouraging things to say, for example, when Dawn-Elissa Fischer said to make up our own decisions before someone else makes them for us. Overall, it was a good experience. I also learned a few things about what they discussed. It seemed like they were in control of their decisions and know what they want.-Jessica P.First of all I thought that it was very disrespectful when the panelists arrived because they were like 20 minutes late. I also didn’t like the fact that this one guy smelled like weed. I think that it’s not cool when you have to go where there are a lot of people and you smell like weed. I liked the fact that each person in the panel had a chance to like give their speech. I thought it was going to like a debate or something like that.
One interesting thing for me was when the woman in the middle talked about networking. I found it interesting because I think that our school has many contacts that will like to join ,but I also think that we don’t use those contacts and we don’t take advantages of what others don’t have. I also found interesting the fact that they say that California is a role model for other states. I was impressed because I thought that California was not a good state but now I see that it isn’t that bad. At least it can be a role model to follow.-Moises S.
The panel was a different experience for me in the way that I had
never had someone talk to me in that particular way. All of the things that they were saying had a meaning towards our future and also their own. We are the ones that the future is depending on. We are the ones that are going to make changes in the society. There are always things going on in the world and our surroundings. There are many things that you could take out of that. Your decision is to follow along or go your own way. Making your own decisions in life isn’t always easy, but knowing that what is going on know has always been there can make people think about life a whole other way. Many other people have been through the same things or worse and they still struggle to be where they are. That could be the symbol and things that we could look up to. We make life changes as we go on. Depending on the actions that we make know affect the future and what is going to go on in value. Even though that we might think that one person might not make a change in the world that is something that we have to move out of the way. There is one person that could make the world change from one thing to another. When I heard them talking to us and in parts yelling at us made a change. Hearing the things that you waited for so long makes you realize that there is someone out there screaming your name and waiting for your response,telling you that there is nothing better than you in the future, without you there’s nothing. The reality is that we are the future.-Viviana Z.
I thought the panel was very good. They were speaking on some things that I didn't know about. I thought it was great that we were the first high school that they went to. To be at our ages and were
able to respond to some of the things that they were speaking on was awesome. I thought it was great how Ms. Rosa brought up how 1 and 4 girls are infected with some kind of infection and some of them might not know until they go to the doctor because they don't know about any of the infections out and they aren't sure of the symptoms. Also I thought it was good how they mixed politics with hip-hop.I also thought it was interesting how Mr.Rico was saying that some of the stuff that is going on now happened back when he was a kid but the only thing different is the homicide rate has doubled and young men are starting to go to jail for minor things and they are no older than 14 or 15 years old and some of them are being put in jail with people 18 and older. I really appreciate them for coming to our school and I hope that hey can come back again for another rap session.-Kellee J.On Thursday April 4th, 2008 a very informative panel discussion took place here at Unity High. The discussion was about hip hop, politics, education, violence, and the state of our community and country as a whole. We are in a state of emergency. Youth of today’s generation are out of control. Miseducation and the lack of guidance is a major contribution. In our community, resources are becoming scarcer. Teenagers are lacking knowledge and the thirst for it. Solutions were being sought as the discussion took place. Some of Unity’s young scholars approached the panel with powerful questions, seeking fulfilling answers. Young Korey (me) had some very thought provoking questions. One of many which were: “where are our adults who truly care?”…For too long we have been lied to and neglected. When will truth and justice prevail? The crisis, were in, is putting us in a disposition around the world.
The state of hip hop isn’t helping either. NOT ALL, but much of the degrading lyrics are diminishing the Afrikan character and women as well. Rap artists now days are color blind for green, not realizing their phony, unrealistic but influential image is inspiring youth to do unnecessary things. The “GANGSTA” in today’s society is taking the young folks and transforming their mentality.
Violence is really out of control. In Oakland alone, every year at least 150 murders (sic) take place, not including other cities and states throughout the U.S. I conclude by saying this was a powerful discussion. But more action and discussions need to take place within our homes.-Korey G.
The hip hop and politics assembly was very interesting. I liked how the panel talked about their lives and what they been through. I liked what Rosa Clemente said about how we need to stand up as woman and not let any one downgrade us. I really understood what she was talking about because I hang out with a lot of guys and most of my family is boys so I have learned how to get respect from people and how not to let people disrespect me.
I agreed with Rico when he started talking about the whole drug situation. He talked about how he was exposed to drugs in his home and from there he realized that he wanted to stay away from that. If people want to get rid of the drug issue I think they have to start at home. Everything starts at home, and then you reach out to your neighborhood, than your community and so fort. But if you can’t control things in your home than don’t expect to control people you don’t know. I understood what he was taking about and I liked how he said he was reborn when he heard the students at our school talk. I felt the same way when I heard the members of the panel talk.
Some students were talking about how they don’t listen to music that downgrades woman and talks about drugs. I’m not going to lie. I do listen to that type of music but I don’t think of myself as the type of person that the rappers are talking about in their songs. Maybe there are woman like that and they are the ones that are giving us a bad image and maybe by listening to that type of music I’m not helping either but it’s out there and running from it or blocking it out is not going to help nothing. You have to be open to everything or else you will be ignorant to everything.-Beatrice R.
The talk with the panelists was a very interesting way of conversation, because all of the panelists were fluent in what we were talking about. These individuals had a lot of information to offer to us, the youth, and what is going on today. All of the
panelists have been through many things and are very successful people in today’s society. I admire them for the work that they have decided to do besides what their job is. Their intentions are very good, because they are trying to help out the youth in the communities by not falling on the wrong path that hip-hop/ rap influences young people to do. What I enjoyed the most was hearing where these people came from and how they were raised. This interested me because all of them came from different backgrounds and were all connected by one thing, which was hip-hop. All of their jobs included hip-hop in some way. This is why I think that they know and enjoy what they bring to us very much. Not many people take the time to talk to the youth and tell them the truth about what the reality is today. Many choose to just go with the flow and make money, even though it hurts their own people. In other words they choose to ignore what they are causing.-Eric M.
I have to admit that at first the panel didn’t really interest me. I just went because I had to go. All of the speakers were really opinionated and had no problem expressing themselves. It was hard to see them going all over the place because it didn’t seem like they had a lot in common at first glance. Of course that’s a really bad assumption. They all had their different thoughts and I didn’t think that a lot of them talked a lot.
What really got me interested was when Rosa Clemente started talking. For one, it interested me what she had to say. She also used a lot of hand movements and her tone of voice could get people involved. The thing that the other panelist didn’t do was get involved with the audience. They were talking to us and looking directly at us but it just sometimes felt as if they were too deep in their own thoughts. All in all it was OK.-Carolina C.
What I though about the panel was great that we had an opportunity that would help us understand about the music and the politics around us and how it relates in our every day life and history; where we can ask questions about how can we can change our community by using hip-hop and politics. I agree with every one said, but the two people that I agreed the most was Rosa Clemente and Angela, that yes we are the future and yes were are the next generation that can change everything around us by being political activists or anything that makes you speak your mind of what you think is right and wrong. But what I also want to reflect on is that we learn from everything around us. In my opinion what is around is Hip-Hop, that creates violence and oppression because some the music that many artist compose show images of women being only used for sex. But the ironic part of that would be that women do it too, through the music business and in the community.
As I mentioned before, young adults like us are the future but we need positive role models that could take us on the right track, but also to lead on the right track it lies on us to make decisions that would lead us to our future. I would like to learn more about this topic in the future. This was an excellent panel, which we got to relate to the activist. What I also liked about this panel is they were honest of what we are going to accept in the real world and that made me open my eyes, to research more about hip-hop and absorb all the knowledge out there because the world out there is competitive and were are competing with one another for jobs and other important things.
I really enjoyed this panel and it would be good that other high schools should learn about this topic. And it was privilege that our school was the very first to experience this panel that was brought together.-Maria B.
A few friends and I reviewed some of the reflections here yesterday and we came to some of the same conclusions that some of us wrote in the reflections. We are grateful that the panel came to Unity first. However there were several things that could have improved the discussion. First off, I’d like to make it clear that I do not mean to insult anyone, merely to state what I did not state in my reflection and what I got from a very interesting conversation with my friends, whose names I won’t mention for their privacy, yesterday after reviewing some of the reflections on the infamous “Rap Sessions” panel. Another thing that led me to write this was that several people in the panel said that students in the colleges they had gone to did not talk and simply stared at them. Since I don’t feel I’ve anything to lose by being honest, won’t bite my tongue about some of the flaws my friends and I noticed. Some parts of the panel seemed more like a rally than a panel, such as the constant glorification of Barack Obama. Despite my personal biases, no one on the panel gave some solid examples as to why he’d truly make a better president than another candidate, but several of them simply threw his name out there. This made me feel no more informed than when I’ve seen the perpetual shouts of “CHANGE!” on television. Since the panel was supposed to be focused on the integration of hip-hop and politics, then it might be better to actually talk a bit more about relative politics, such as the constant cuts to education and immigration policies for the countless people with parents in this country illegally. It would also be good to actually talk about the connection between hip-hop and politics since it was never addressed in the discussion. The constant mention of the United States being a country of white supremacy was, of course, not unfounded. However I and my friends talked about this and we are past the simple demonization of white people since we’ve seen that not all white people are rich and racist. On a personal note, I was a bit frustrated that a few people in the panel took a Malcolm X “white devil” outlook during the discussion. My friends and I talked it over and came to the conclusion that the simple demonization of an entire group should be more commonly seen in those that have just began learning of their oppression and want to “find the enemy” even though it is almost never that simple. Perhaps one of the more pestering things in the discussion was that a lot of the questions went unanswered. While tangential answers can also lead to very interesting facts, certain questions seemed to be completely blown off because there were no simple answers, such as when someone asked what we can do to change the way things are in the U.S. I recognize there was on simple answer, but some ideas or a straight “I don’t know” would have been better than wandering from the subject and not making any connection to the actual question afterwards. A lot of us were looking for some guidance in the panel but, from what I’ve seen in the reviews, many found instead that it is not that easy to come up with solutions. The panel should address the question first then go into any relating story or go talk about something but connect it with the question afterwards because if someone does not see the connection, the question might as well have never been asked. To end on a positive note, the thing I most enjoyed and respected was the complete honesty of all those in the panel since I heard some very personal stories there that helped me connect with them instead of having feeling like I’d just been lectured by a monotone speaking professor like I do at some other events.
Martin, I don't really have anything to add other than you raised some good points. I think the point of panels like these are to get us to think, yet they're not above being questioned. After all, who are these panels intended to benefit? Glad you're taking advantage of the panel to reflect and not demonize nor romanticize it!
I am glad that the panel came to Unity, even thoguh we are such a small school it is cool how have gotten to take part in such a big thing. One person on the panel I was really drawn to was Rosa Celemente. She seems to be very passionate about what she is doing, and that lets you know she cares about her work. I agreed with some of things she says like how on the west coast your brown, but on the east coast you black. That has been my experience on the east coast. Alot of my cousins and friends that would be considered "brown" in California are considered black on the east coast by alot people. After she said this I wondered if this was the reason why she refered to herself as a Black Puerto Rican. Part of me thinks that it is really ignorant to refer to yourself this way, but i guess that it was the she was raised. Rico Pabón did not talk much but I was most impressed by what he said when he did speak. Is life story is sad but inspiring because he did grow up to follow in the habits of parents or let that situation stop him from doing good in his life. Overall the panel was good and I hope that in the future more high school students and people my age get to be apart of it because it really gets you thinking.
Its great how we are such a smalls school and there are famous programs and people cooming to Unity High School. When the session was done music really changed my mind in a lot of different view points. What changed for me is the type of music I use to hear. I never really realize that all I was hearing was the B word and money and sleeping with this and having all this jewelry. Its true for what females say that they get hurt when they hear does things in the radio station or people just singing the lyrics. When a few of my female classmates went up to ask a question one of them said, What can we do to stop this violance on music? I was really shock and it was a very powerfull question. My answer to that would be just stop listening to it get your mind out that music and teach people not to listen that music.
What i thought about the hip-hop panel was that they were very orriented to us about networking because its good for us to start meeting people because when we off to college its really going to help us out. Also they talk about poetry on how it influenced Rico Pabon in his music. They said that we have been growing up in a though neighboorhood or community and that we need to take all that in mind. For example having connections is helpful because when you have some kind of project you can look at your networking list for help on the project or for a job. Growing up in a tough neighboorhood can influence you to make a change in your community. For example it might motivate you to go to college and become and come back to make a difference.
Hey Mr.z I really like the way that my speech is presented in this website. I found it really cool that you put my photo here. I am extremely excited to see what comments the guest speakers from this day had to say about my essay.
I like all of the things that the panelists had to say about the problems all around the world and I also like the way they were so impressed with our students from Unity High.
When i heard about the hip-hop panel I was like its going to be boring because we have heard it about it so many times. That they say the same thing over and over. But when we were there I realized that no it was something really different about it. It was true what they say that we need to have talkative with people that you don't know. But that will really help you in life. Because once you are getting older you are going to deal with things like this. Is helpful to get used to it. The more connections you have with different people of different places or culture the more opportunities you have in life to find a job or learn new different things.People might thing that hip-hop doesn't have anything with you in life but yo don't realize it does. It does because many young kids do listen to that kind of music and they start at a young age saying that they want to do this and that. Some kids that have brothers or family that are in gangs and see that they hear that type of music makes them follow the same steps. Unlike that there are some songs that talk about being someone in life and not to keep the same steps as people that are going th wrong way. After this one hour talk about hip-hop change my thoughts about hip-hop and makes e realize different things about life.
after reading this summary, i think that Unity is a school that is heard of all around. i think overall the panel went really well. they had some good points and the students interacted with the people from the panel. the students also gave out some good points, they suprised the panel becasue of what some students said. they really interacte with one another. The conversation that was exciting, it wasn't boring. I though it would be but what they talked about made it more interesting.
After reading this article about the Hip Hop and Politics panel that we were lucky enough to have at school I thought that it was a real interesting article. I thought that it was real interesting to read that even though all of our panelists had only been at universities they decided to come to our high school which was the first high school that they have visited. I also would have to agree with you on he part about Rosa Clemente being one of the most interesting panelists because like you say she was one of the few of them that seemed to really relate to what it is that is going on right now with politics and Hip Hop. I also agree with you because Rosa was the one who talked about a topic that concerns all of us who are trying to get our education dealing with the fund cuts on programs such as Sex Ed and many more also Rosa also related all of that is happening right now and expressed her own feelings with a question that made most of us from the audience think and see how the society that we live in is not fair. For me it was also an interesting article because we got to see that most of the panelist were women that really understood what we as young women living in his society have to go through. This was also an interesting article because you specifically wrote how Rico Pavon explained that he was the one who had decided that he was going to change the route that his past three generations had created which dealt with their addiction either towards drugs and or alcohol or anything else. One last thing that I would have to say about this is hat like many of my classmates said we feel great full that we were the first high school that our panelist had ever gone to because this showed us that they actually thought that we could be a good audience in which they could spread all of their knowledge and one in which they felt that they were going to leave something behind so we all can come together and be part of a change like they are, so that we as youth can show the rest of the people surrounding us that all it takes to make a change is to have will and to know that what happens around us is something that affects us the most because we are the ones who are going to be living in this world and the ones who are having to deal with all of the injustices that surround us.
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